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#16  Enviado: 14:32 18/02/2016  Editado: 00:07 19/02/2016 (2 veces)

En respuesta a Juanmart (réplica 15).
Do you know what is known as the syndrome of "useful idiot" ?It is the syndrome by which a worker (if a commercial fucking of that sure worked "cold calls") deny their social class and fooled like real nerds by the siren of the right and catholic religion, vo The sale of these patients reaches levels of true stupidity  currently defending a ruling putrid party (PP) that has deceived all, has lowered the wages of workers, has reduced pensions, he has cut social spending and also is corrupt to the core, as the "useful idiot" it seems that this does not go with him and even can not see the reality of the putative nature of this spaniard right is none other than Franco and the Catholic Church.
Do you know what is known as the syndrome of "useful idiot" ?


Yes, It is a term created to be used in people perceived as propagandists, who proving again and again that he has no fucking idea what they are talking about, but believed their own bullshits. In other words, YOU!!!  Also, why the hell you write in English? To prove this point in another language?  Congratulations, you've accomplished.
Lo que no te mata te convierte en un zombi
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#17  Enviado: 23:49 18/02/2016

Para InvictusSol:
666 The Number Of The Beast.
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#18  Enviado: 12:16 19/02/2016

The story is usually interpreted in terms of what we want to project for the future. This assertion is most evident in the case of euskalherria if we analyze the different ways in which history has been interpreted. Today we can distinguish three types of historiography referring to Euskalherria

The first line is the imperialist historiography, Spanish or French, for which the Basque baskones or basically do not have their own history or have never existed, except in the Spanish or French national history, so Baskonia or State Nabarra only previous elements are understood and generally minor in building Spain or France, where culminate and everything would end as a "unity of universal destiny." In this historiography, the Baskonia or Nabarra invaded by the other imperialist state, is outside simply does not fit the previously precooked result.

The second line is the historiographical-autonomous Basque nationalist PNV, heir to the foralist historiography, which has not yet overcome the myth of the "pact" despite the historical and political great men of this stream as Ortueta, Irujo, Monsoon texts or Agirre. The Rise of the Spanish military in 1936 and subsequent dictatorship, nipped in the bud the development that was taking place. This nationalist-autonomist historiography remained stagnant in the overhead posed by the need for statutory protection of previous centuries and to this historiographical current, the Basques in general were never part of nabarro State but formed distinct political units of Castilla but not states: brothers united itself but not, so you need to create a Basque state called Euskadi. Moreover, these territories were incorporated by a personal covenant with the king to the Spanish crown, one by one, Bizkaia, Gipuzkoa and present Alaba, as they are geographically in the twentieth century, being arguably the case of Navarra. For the nationalist-autonomist historiography, the history of Baskonia under French occupation, or do not have or is in the background, incomprehensible and washed out, forgetting it always Gascony, despite being the largest territory and become the the core of the first baskón State or duchy of Baskonia.

One of the founders of ANV (1930) opposite the PNV, Anacleto Ortueta and rejected this theory: "A false tradition has made us consider as a natural evolution of our national formation called blades, Biscay, Gipuzkoa, zuberoano and laburtino States . On the contrary, they were created by pressure from our enemies. " Currently this historical line "States" independent of each other they agree Castile Spain Basque has no followers renowned among historians, but it is the thesis continues to be taught which governs the PNV.

These two historiography, the imperialist and nationalist-autonomist vascadel PNV, were mortally wounded since the demonstrations, books, conferences, rallies and overall recovery of historical memory of Nabarra baskón that culminated in 2012 State with the commemoration of the 500th anniversary of the invasion and subjugation of Navarra. That year, the historical and political theory-autonomous Basque nationalism and the Spanish-French imperialism, collapsed, as incorporating "aeque principalis" 1512 Navarre demystified the Spanish Empire was forever face the reality of the invasion, bloody conquest fierce resistance, recovery and re-invade the kingdom, destroying castles, repression and murder of dissidents even condemning them to the stake of the Inquisition, military subjugation for centuries people always ready to regain their freedom and construction scheme of slavery by the natural strength of an extramural Pamplona-Iruñea, where the following centuries the Spanish army was stationed to prevent any military uprising natural kingdom of Navarre. In the year 2012 Navarre socially recovered memory of a State invaded by imperialist powers of the time, which is reflected today in sociological surveys on national sentiment.

This historiographical actually the third line feeds, Navarre or national national baskona, whose precedents are members of the association Euskara and subsequent studies Estornés Bernardo Lasa, Jimeno Jurio, Julio Altadill, José María Lacarra, Maria Puy Huici Goñi, Pablo Antoñana, Jon Oria Oses, etc., but also Anacleto Ortueta, Manuel de Irujo, Telesforo Monzon or Lehendakari Agirre, as when in 1948 he wrote: "the Basque people, whose national identity anyone prepared runs in the world today It has a story, theirs. Write with foreign judgment or serving foreign interests is adulterate "

This is the only solvent and realistic historiography sse shows online and in the interpretation of the excavations of castles and fortresses Navarre destrudios by the invading Yque are currently underway time, and known documents, but whose political implications cost much take the españolistas and autonomy: Euskalherria is a people-nation invaded his state.
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#19  Enviado: 12:21 19/02/2016

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#20  Enviado: 12:24 19/02/2016

Opus Dei, qui tollis pecuniam mundi,
Omnipotens, aeterna Dei Sapientia, Christe,
miserere nobis, Opus Dei. . .peccata mundi,
Verum subsistens veo de lumine lumen,
miserere nobis. Opus Dei. . .peccata mundi,
Optima perpetuae concedens gaudia vitae,
dona nobis partem.
.Daedalus.
Mejor te hubieras quedado callado.
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#21  Enviado: 20:29 19/02/2016

Ban the retard !!!
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kgoku
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#22  Enviado: 13:35 27/02/2016

En respuesta a Juanmart (réplica 18).
The story is usually interpreted in terms of what we want to project for the future. This assertion is most evident in the case of euskalherria if we analyze the different ways in which history has been interpreted. Today we can distinguish three types of historiography referring to Euskalherria

The first line is the imperialist historiography, Spanish or French, for which the Basque baskones or basically do not have their own history or have never existed, except in the Spanish or French national history, so Baskonia or State Nabarra only previous elements are understood and generally minor in building Spain or France, where culminate and everything would end as a "unity of universal destiny." In this historiography, the Baskonia or Nabarra invaded by the other imperialist state, is outside simply does not fit the previously precooked result.

The second line is the historiographical-autonomous Basque nationalist PNV, heir to the foralist historiography, which has not yet overcome the myth of the "pact" despite the historical and political great men of this stream as Ortueta, Irujo, Monsoon texts or Agirre. The Rise of the Spanish military in 1936 and subsequent dictatorship, nipped in the bud the development that was taking place. This nationalist-autonomist historiography remained stagnant in the overhead posed by the need for statutory protection of previous centuries and to this historiographical current, the Basques in general were never part of nabarro State but formed distinct political units of Castilla but not states: brothers united itself but not, so you need to create a Basque state called Euskadi. Moreover, these territories were incorporated by a personal covenant with the king to the Spanish crown, one by one, Bizkaia, Gipuzkoa and present Alaba, as they are geographically in the twentieth century, being arguably the case of Navarra. For the nationalist-autonomist historiography, the history of Baskonia under French occupation, or do not have or is in the background, incomprehensible and washed out, forgetting it always Gascony, despite being the largest territory and become the the core of the first baskón State or duchy of Baskonia.

One of the founders of ANV (1930) opposite the PNV, Anacleto Ortueta and rejected this theory: "A false tradition has made us consider as a natural evolution of our national formation called blades, Biscay, Gipuzkoa, zuberoano and laburtino States . On the contrary, they were created by pressure from our enemies. " Currently this historical line "States" independent of each other they agree Castile Spain Basque has no followers renowned among historians, but it is the thesis continues to be taught which governs the PNV.

These two historiography, the imperialist and nationalist-autonomist vascadel PNV, were mortally wounded since the demonstrations, books, conferences, rallies and overall recovery of historical memory of Nabarra baskón that culminated in 2012 State with the commemoration of the 500th anniversary of the invasion and subjugation of Navarra. That year, the historical and political theory-autonomous Basque nationalism and the Spanish-French imperialism, collapsed, as incorporating "aeque principalis" 1512 Navarre demystified the Spanish Empire was forever face the reality of the invasion, bloody conquest fierce resistance, recovery and re-invade the kingdom, destroying castles, repression and murder of dissidents even condemning them to the stake of the Inquisition, military subjugation for centuries people always ready to regain their freedom and construction scheme of slavery by the natural strength of an extramural Pamplona-Iruñea, where the following centuries the Spanish army was stationed to prevent any military uprising natural kingdom of Navarre. In the year 2012 Navarre socially recovered memory of a State invaded by imperialist powers of the time, which is reflected today in sociological surveys on national sentiment.

This historiographical actually the third line feeds, Navarre or national national baskona, whose precedents are members of the association Euskara and subsequent studies Estornés Bernardo Lasa, Jimeno Jurio, Julio Altadill, José María Lacarra, Maria Puy Huici Goñi, Pablo Antoñana, Jon Oria Oses, etc., but also Anacleto Ortueta, Manuel de Irujo, Telesforo Monzon or Lehendakari Agirre, as when in 1948 he wrote: "the Basque people, whose national identity anyone prepared runs in the world today It has a story, theirs. Write with foreign judgment or serving foreign interests is adulterate "

This is the only solvent and realistic historiography sse shows online and in the interpretation of the excavations of castles and fortresses Navarre destrudios by the invading Yque are currently underway time, and known documents, but whose political implications cost much take the españolistas and autonomy: Euskalherria is a people-nation invaded his state.
If you´re going to use another language to talk about the Basque Country, you should try doing it in Euskera.

Hemen erabiltzen dugun hizkuntza, alegia.
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